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's going on there. >> reporter: dzhokhar was an ethic chechen who came with his family from kyrgyzstan when he was very young. some of the students we talk to say he liked to play soccer. he liked to smoke weed. they say there was nothing about him that jumped out as anything other than what thousands of other college students around here do on a typical day. >> such a bold and bizarre move to go back to your university. chris lawrence, thank you. >> while students in the boston area, other schools return to normal. the teen bombing suspect is lying in a hospital bed this morning. the officials tell cnn he had been intubated and right now cannot talk. susan candiotti is standing outside the hospital. what do we know about his condition this morning? >> hi, john, good morning to you. because officials tell us he has these throat injuries and because of what you mentioned as well, that means he simply can't talk to investigators, even if they wanted to. or even if he wanted to. so now they have to sit and wait to see if his medical condition improves and if so, when that will be. this is a co
. there seems to be some confusion though were they from kyrgyzstan, chechnya, one of those predominantly muslim areas of the former soviet union. >> the uncle says family's chechen, muslim. american loving as they've assimilated here. the brothers went through kyrgyzstan, that's how they got the visa to come here and then asyl asylum, he used the word asylum in his press conference. the boys are here without their broth father, the man's brother. the point was they had immigrated through kyrgyzstan into here and then became part of american life. went to school. the older brother now dead was a successful boxer, allegedly wanted to box for the country, went to salt lake, utah, as a boxer. the other brother competed in high school sports, had friends, jobs. and then this. >> i want to re-play right now what we heard just a little while ago. this is the uncle of these two brothers. the uncle's name ruslan tsarni. we're going to hear from him. he lives here in the united states. he's going to be speaking about his two nephews, these two suspects. >> what happened and what we heard this morning abo
exactly his immigration state where he traveled when. it's possible he left kyrgyzstan and could have been perhaps five years in kyrgyzstan. that would have been the violent period at the end after the second war of chechen independence when russia very heavily cracked down. after that, militants spread across the region here in southern russia and then a lot of violence began to pop up in this province of kyrgyzstan. many found roots and homes here in dagestan. people with al qaeda links. we don't know precisely where tamerlan was in dagestan. >> president obama spoke to vladimir putin today. do we have any idea what they discussed? >> the same said simply terrorism issues. there will be a large question here about what they know about tamerlan. he would have spent a short peered in southern russia. this points back to the fbi saying in the year before they did question him. it's entirely possible many people say that could have been the indication of russia i spoke to. he may have had no comment at this particular point. they worked intently in the past few years, past decade, many say w
or kyrgyzstan. either a prosecutor or a police officer. so, the brothers have been here for a decade. one was born in russia. one is born in kyrgyzstan. and, so, they are from that region, but have been here for a decade. >> now, the associated press claims they've interviewed their father in russia. so, that would sort of conflict, that would conflict with this idea that the family is here in the united states. >> not necessarily. it would indicate that the family came in 2002. he may have returned to russia. that's a part of the puzzle we don't have. but we know for certain that the two brothers have been here for a decade. >> and there's been some question about their residency status. definitely know that the older brother was a legal resident or is that still unclear? >> legal, permanent resident, yes. >> and the other, dzhokhar the person you're looking at on the screen. did plant the second bomb. he was a resident of cambridge, but his precise immigration status is unclear. >> and what do we know about the two people brought into custody? not much more beyond that? >> again, that's
kyrgyzstan. >> yes, in the pictures, when you said have you seen the pictures, i opened up internet. and on aol, i saw picture of dzhokhar. >> what do you say to dzhokhar right now? >> i say dzhokhar, if you're alive, turn yourself in. and ask for forgiveness. the victims from the injured and from those who left, ask forgiveness on these people. we're not requiring forgiveness in this family. to put a shame on our family, tsarnaev family, to put a shame on the entire chechen community. for now, they put that shame on the entire ethnicity. that's what i would say. turn yourself in. and whatever, whatever, i mean, put yourself in the discretion of those people. >> do you consider them -- >> pardon me? >> not yet. not yet. >> what is your name again? >> last time i spoke with them, that was about -- about three months ago, maybe. >> did you express -- >> no, no, no. >> where are they from? where were they born? >> they came here from kyrgyzstan. >> where were they born? >> in kyrgyzstan. no, they're losers. i'm saying those available to make this tragedy are only losers. that's what i
officially didn't go to school here long enough to be called locals. records show they came from kyrgyzstan and then became america's creation. these records show the four tsarnaev family members coming in 2001 from kyrgyzstan. and then leaving it says here to america the 25th of march 2002. they were with us for five months, he says. their formative years were in america, it's their culture. that's where they social socially matured. now, people are still trying to find out further information here. the father says he will go to the united states, as you heard. it's not clear whether he is still here. i spoke with him very briefly this morning, but of course a man devastated by what he's finding out american official says the truth about his sons. zorida. >> all right, nick paton walsh in dagestan, russia, this morning. >>> up next, a terrorism expert helps us understand what may have driven the attack. and we're learning more about the suspects' past. family members saying one suspect was brainwashed. mine was earned in djibouti, africa, 2004. the battle of bataan, 1942. [ all ] fort benn
. the tsarnaev family ended up in kyrgyzstan. that's where in 1986, the older brother tamerlan was born. the family moved back to the northern caucasus just as the first chechen war was brewing. tamerlan's brother dzhokhar was born in the region in 1993. in the mid-1990s, the boys' family fled back to kyrgyzstan, then to dagestan. >> dagestan is important to note, has turned into the epicenter of the radical jihadi movement in the caucasus because the russians have been so effective in pushing the insurgency out of chechnya itself. >> the family finally emigrated to the united states. tamerlan's uncle says it's in the u.s. that his nephew fell under the influence of a new convert to islam. >> i said, this person took advantage. brain washed him. >> much of the focus now is on his six-month stay last year in dagestan and chechnya. once back in the united states, tamerlan created a youtube channel, posting a video of abu dujana, a self-styled jihadi leader from dagestan. it's not clear whether he actually met dujana in the caucasus emirate, which the united states says is a terrorist orga
, the one they are still trying to find now, dzhokhar tsarnaev was born in kyrgyzstan. his family lives in russia and we're told his father was a public official there at one time. the reason we're told for this extraordinary security in the area of watertown is, of course, because they still don't know where the other of the two brothers, the second bomber is located. they think they know where he is. they believe that's the place they have surrounded and where you just saw kerry sanders reporting but there's a further concern that these two brothers may have had af coccomplices an authorities found another bomb in boston. a device in the charles gate area. they rendered it safe but they are concerned there maybe accomplices. they can't be certain of it. but there's a concern there maybe accomplices at large. you put all of those factors together, and we're told that's the reason for the extraordinary security. there's been a report that one accomplice tried to escape on a train to connecticut. that the train was stopped. we believe now that this is not the case. savannah? >> pete will
, the younger one born in kyrgyzstan. >> we're getting some new information in from connecticut state police saying that the vehicle that josh just described is occupied possibly by someone who is a suspect. so, we are getting very, very breaking details right now. i want to bring in brad garrett to talk about what may be happening right now in connecticut. brad, you just heard that new information about police are saying. vehicle they're searching may be occupied. >> and it shouldn't surprise anyone that he would predictably car jack someone and keep moving. he did get outside the police perimeter. what you're going to see as the day unfolds, though, as marthaened others pointed out, he may be able to pull this bombing off but he's not really a savvy criminal, if you will, and his world is going to continue to narrower and narrower and if the police are lucky to stop that vehicle in some way and i guarantee you, they're going to stop it where they don't have to approach it. but, if he would happen to get away, he's g because, curious, obviously he was able to commune yesterday with his fath
a massachusetts license. a resident of cambridge and we are told now he was born in kyrgyzstan. his brother's age is 26 and born in russia and became a permanent legal residents in 2007. also pete williams reporting we are told the brothers came with their family to the united states in either 2002 or 2003. very fresh information. no reason to draw any conclusions from just this. just more pieces of the puzzle that we will slowly pull together. the bigger issue now is the manhunt under wail and the safety of the people in the boston and watertown area. having that said, michael, given your experience and without going too far, let's look at what has happened. let's look at what they reportedly have done to attack in the way they did, the boston marathon. an international event. iconic american event. the oldest marathon in the world and to attack it an hour in when regular people were just crossing the finish line, to create bombs that were built, if they were built with any intention, to maim, to maim the people and to maim so many people. and then what pete williams is telling us is this sort o
and permission to stay in the united states arguing if he were to go back to kyrgyzstan or chechnya or some place like that, the former soviet union, one of those republics, predominantly muslim areas, he could be in danger. >> that's what he said. they were both here legally. the younger one a naturalized u.s. citizen and the older on a green card, but again legally here. >> you know, i think we want to talk a little about the controlled explosions that are about to happen. mike brooks, the hln law enforcement analyst is joining us right now. you know a lot about these controlled explosions. they can be pretty terrifying if you're in a neighborhood, mike, and you hear a loud boom and you don't know this is something that law enforcement is deliberately doing, you could be pretty scared. >> oh, absolutely, wolf. i'm glad that the colonel from the massachusetts state police let everyone know that this would be happening. you know, this is -- they're concentrating right now on norfolk street there in cambridge where the two brothers apparently lived in this apartment. but we don't know if there's e
individuals were not born in chechnya. instead, they were born here, in kyrgyzstan. exactly how they got to kyrgyzstan and at what point, not clear, but we know they left in 2002-2003 coming to the united states. now, the older brother tamerlan, 26, now dead, we know that in january of last year, he flew from jfk to moscow. he was over there for six months, returned from moscow to jfk in july. we don't know what happened there, except that he visited his father. scroll back down, we move south back to that region. there's chechnya. that's where his father is right now. he gave an interview to russian tv today. his father says his sons have been framed, at least that's what he believe. if you are from that region, it is muslim. what we do not know is if there is any direct connection between these individuals. one of the key movements there have disavowed them, so they're not connected in any way. the reason that they're of chechen decent is why we have focus sod much on this area of the world today. >> michelle, people have been wondering all day, the chechen fight has been about indepen
in july of 2012, traveling on his kyrgyzstan passport. so obviously the questions would be did he go to a training camp? who did he meet? what type of plot is this and getting back to what's happening at the boat right now. earlier today we were am cambridge, massachusetts down the street from harvard by the house where suspect number one lives. turns out that authorities say they found some bombs, explosive material. there was also another one of those bombs, the type that was used pressure cooker in the first attacks on monday also discovered. but, bill, the big question here friends of dzhokhar told me earlier today when he was in high school cambridge high school. wrestle team, loved sports, normal kid, used to hang out and smoke pot with them and listen to rap music. the big question for our country tonight, what we have to faces a americans is this. what happened? how did these young people turn from being these type of teenagers into now accused terrorists who want to come and kill in their view the infidels. that is a major issue for a nation to deal with tonight. it has all
from a central asian republic, a former part of the soviet union called kyrgyzstan. i talked to the kyrgyzstan government. they confirm that both brothers had kyrgyz passports before they got green cards and moved to the u.s. the interesting thing is that the two republics where these young men were believed to have roots before they got to the u.s., chechnya and kyrgyzstan, both of those governments are seeking to distance themselves from the tsarnaev brothers. the kyrgyz government has issued a statement saying, listen these two guys left our country more than 12 years ago. we're not responsible for their actions. meanwhile, the president of the republic of chechnya, he's gone one step further saying these guys were never known really in chechnya, they got their education in the u.s., they were raised there, and whatever evil they may have committed, well, that came from america. anderson? >> ivan, chechnya -- chechen rebels, terrorists from chechnya, were responsible for the movie theater hostage taking in moscow several years ago. i believe more than -- dozens of people w
, and his brother is a naturalized citizen. both men were born in kyrgyzstan. don? >> thank you, joe. just ahead, a boston suburban neighborhood turns into a war zone. we are learning new details about the early morning shootout in watertown and what killed suspect number one. >> there is an active incident in watertown right now. >> we must have heard about 60 gunshots. >> we are advising all watertown residents to remain in their homes. >> there were dozens of police officers with their guns drawn. we could hear them yelling things like heavily armed n the yard. >> we believe it to be a terrorist, and we believe this to be a man who has come here to kill people. with we need to get him in custody. >> the governor has immediately suspended all public transportation service. >> the shelter in place recommendation has been extended throughout the city of boston. >> it is a ghost town. not a soul on the streets. >> it is horrifying that this is my home. >> and we are needing more time and we are making significant progress up there, but it may take hours. >> that was early in the evening fri
it literally from the stuff in your mom's kitchen. >> tamerlan used his kyrgyzstan passport to travel to russia last year to visit his father. we're told he stayed there a few months and returned to boston this past july and a few weeks after touching back down in boston, he set up a you-tube page on august 17th that he used to post and promote radical jihadi videos. all that electronic media, we're told, is being carefully reviewed right now by investigators to try to figure out who his friend were, what the motive might have been and to see if there was any kind of warning in advance of monday's attacks. heather? >> peter doocy reporting live for us. thank you. >>> we rarely hear about terrorists whose native country is chechnya. what do we know about their origins? here to talk more about the boston bomb suspects and where they came from, we're joined by michael scheuer, he's the former head of the cia's bin laden unit. thank you for joining us. >> you're welcome. >>> where is chechnya in the world? >> it's in the north caucuses in the southern part of russia. there has been an ongoing war b
after spending time in kyrgyzstan in the dag tan region. they became known as athletes. the older one, a boxer. the younger one, a wrestler. joe car became a u.s. citizen a year ago, on september 11th. the father went back to russia. >> reporter: this is the last place the suspect's parents were seen here this dagestan. it is a shop they were planning to open. it's where they gave an interview to russian television yesterday. after speaking to abc news several times yesterday, suspect's father has disappeared. he's not picking up his phone anymore. the youngest son, detained by police yesterday, only lived here for a couple of years. when he was in the first grade. neighbors we spoke to are shocked at the news. they describe it as a very normal family. one woman said she saw the oldest one just last year on a visit to dagestan. she described him as a kind young man with no signs of religious extremism. members of congress were saying that during that visit, his religious views became much more extreme. this is a poor and dangerous part of russia. it's been fighting an islamic insurgen
of who these brothers are. the family came to the u.s. 12 years ago after spending time in kyrgyzstan in the dagestan region of russia. in boston, the boys became known as athletes. the younger one, a wrestler. the older one, a boxer. dzhokhar became a u.s. citizen a year ago, on september 11th. but a year ago, their father went back to dagestan after health issues. we sent kirit radia there to find out more about this family. >> reporter: good morning, dan and bianna. this is the last place the suspects' parents were seen here in dagestan. it is a shop they were planning to open. it's where they gave an interview to russian television yesterday. after speaking to abc news several times by phone yesterday, the suspects' father has disappeared. he's not picking up his phone anymore. the youngest son, detained by police yesterday, only lived here for a couple of years. when he was in the first grade. that was over a decade ago. neighbors we spoke to are shocked at the news. they describe it as a very normal family. one woman we spoke to said she saw the oldestson, tamerlan, the one who
brother is a naturalized citizen. both men were born in kyrgyzstan. don? >> thank you, joe. just ahead, a boston suburban neighborhood turns into a war zo zone. we are learning new details about the early morning shootout in watertown and what killed suspect number one. it's crisp, refreshing beer, brewed with the natural flavor of lemonade that's inspired by a classic german style and perfect for summers out here, here and especially here. our family's been brewing in chippewa falls for six generations. we craft lots of great beers but this one says summer. i'm jake and we're the leinenkugels. grab a summer shandy and join us out here. i just stick the bar in the dryer like this, and it freshens my laundry for me so i don't have to think. wait. what was the question? [ male announcer ] how do you get your bounce? [ man ] stick it and forget it. >> there is an active incident in watertown right now. >> we must have heard about 60 gunshots. >> we are advising all watertown residents to remain in their homes. >> there were dozens of police officer s wi officers with their guns drawn. we
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't be coming here as tourists from check kn chechnya after 9/11. dagestan, chechnya, kyrgyzstan, uh-huh. as george bush would say, none of them stands. >> let me get this right, krystal. asylum is not based on those that may be in desire of leaving countries that we think their policies are no good. asylum is based on who you are. have you ever heard anything more biased and -- and in many ways profiling people just based on their nationality? i mean, it's the exact anti-thesis to what asylum is. >> it's the exact antithesis of everything this country stands for. judging people. not allowing them into this country because of their religion is unbelievable. i would love to know how many of these individuals who have now decided that no one from chechnya, no one from dagestan, no one from any of those stands, as she put it, i would love to know how many of them even knew they were on the map or what was going on geopolitically in those countries. it is a disgusting, naked attempt to use the rawest and basest of human emotions to stoke fear and resentment of the other. it's unbelievabl
kyrgyzstan when they got their green cards that allowed them to emigrate to the u.s. now, this becomes a tangled story. they described themselves to their friends, to their neighbors as natives of chechnya, another russian republic torn apart by war during the 1990s. evidently, they left that area because of the gruesome conflict there and ended up in kyrgyzstan before they moved on to the u.s. as far as how long ago they left that central asian republic, i talked to one of the leaders of the ethnic chechen community in kyrgyzstan and he said that we have not seen anybody from the tsarnaev family in more than ten years. so whatever happened seems to have taken place while they were in the u.s. >>> one other tidbit, just to give you an indicator of how deep their roots were in the u.s., we know that the eldest brother, dzhokhar -- i'm sorry, tamerlan, he competed in the golden gloves boxing championship in salt lake city in 2009. chris? >> thank you very much. that's helpful information in term that is they've been here for a long time. there seems to be no real connection back to where
know about the suspects at present. dzhokah tsarnaev was born in kyrgyzstan, he came to the united states with his older brother, tamerlan a decade ago. the two lived together in cambridge, the suspect who was killed in a shutout this morning, tamerlan is a tsarnaev was 26. in 2007 he became a legal resident in america, he was a student at bunker hill community college and competitive boxer. this violent and drautic series of events was not set off by police, but by the suspects themselves, who were apparently trying to escape law enforcement. here's how it played out. around 10:00 p.m. last night, the suspects robbed a store. they then proceeded to fatally shoot an m.i.t. security officer and hijack a mercedes suv. the owner of that vehicle was held hostage for half an hour while the two brothers pulled $800 out of an atm. they released the owner of the mercedes unharmed. police chased the suspects into watertown, where this shootout took place. the suspects exchanged fire with police and threw explosives towards them. at one point, tamerlan sarn ev got out of the car wearing an i
republic of kyrgyzstan. his family is chechnyan. he became an american citizen last year on 9/11. authorities are searching house to house in the boston suburb of watertown where he's believed to be holed up. older brother, suspect number one was killed last night in a shootout with police. nbc news reports that at that shootout, 200 rounds were exchanged. and before that happened, he and his brother killed a security officer at m.i.t. held a man captive after carjacking him. and severely wounded another police officer. the older brother, tamerlan tsarnaev, was 26. nbc news learned he spent six months last year outside of the country. authorities are still piecing together where he went and what he did during that time. there are many questions tonight. joining me to help answer them is nbc investigative correspondent michael isikoff and former director of the national counterterrorism center michael leiter. and former fbi profiler clint van zandt. let me start with michael leiter. the other day, it seems like a year ago, two, three days ago you, had this sense, professional i
in dagastan, this family had moved from kyrgyzstan to dagastan in 2001 as refugees. they're granted asylum in the u.s. two parents, two sons, two daughters. they basically you might say they attained the american dream. they moved from an extremely troubled part of the world and they get the chance to come to the united states where it seems they do great. these two young men went to schools. the youngest one going to the university of massachusetts. doing well. participating in sports. having friends. winning awards. all of that stuff that you might say set them on the path for this great potential. you also see these rifts coming out now. "the boston globe" was able to interview someone who identified themselves as a cousin of these two who is in dag delawaastan a said he warned the younger brother about the older brother. worried, he claims, he was causing trouble in the family, that he seems to be a bad influence on the younger one. then you hear from a sister, a quote from her. this is the sister in new jersey who says, i'm not okay. no one is okay right now. i'm hurt for everyone who
and if at all they were getting in chechnya. we know that they were in kyrgyzstan, we know that they were also in davistan. so you're still affected by the echoes of work and the politics in the region. so that could be the link that we have, that this is a psychological response to many years of war. it could also be a political ideological response. we don't know yet, if at all, that there are any links between the chechen radicals that still exist as part of the insurgency or, for that matter, for any of the networks that exist in other regions. now, you have to understand that this is a very unusual event if that were the case. because chechen separatists have not taken their struggle outside of the russian federation. so if they were to make this strategic movement by using young men instrumentally and politically, then we -- i would really be wondering why. >> right. >> because it hasn't happened in the past. >> well, what's your sense of a network of terrorism network, associated with these two individuals? i mean, law enforcement officials seem to be downplaying the idea of accomplices
. they were refugees from kyrgyzstan to dagestan at one point. they got this chance to come to the u.s. together and really make it in life. nobody is really talking to each other. some of the family members said, several, in fact, said they hadn't talked to these two young men in years. some of them said that they were shocked by this. although how shocked can you be when during this formative period where a young man is shaping his future, you haven't spoken to him in several years? not really knowing what was going on in their lives other than what maybe they've heard years ago. so you know there was some kind of rift in the family. in fact, the two uncles that were interviewed today really spoke to that saying, well, there was trouble. i don't want to get into it. but we're not speaking to that side of the family. i think what was maybe most interesting was that the "boston globe" interviewed this man who said he was a cousin. the same age, in fact, as tamerlan. in dagestan. and he told the "globe" he was worried about the older brother being a bad influence on the younger brothe
was that involved. one other thing, he spent, at the most, a few months in chechnya: he was born in kyrgyzstan where serbians were shipped by stalin in 1994. it's clear from his web page, it's, you know, russian equivalent of the facebook clear that was romanticizing his historic, sort of spiritual mother land and all the abuse that it took from russia and all the struggle for islam went with that. >> bret: tamerlan is derevived from item -- tamerlane, final thoughts general and then charles? >> this is going to take us relook how we are doing here and certainly process and procedures. overall we are probably going to feel pretty good. american people are going to have a sense of awareness about events like this. i think we can go on with our lives to be quite frank about it i think we have the resilience to do that have to take a hard look internationally though in terms of what is going on with our strategy dealing with international terrorism, the al qaeda specifically. i think the initial strategy was fine. the rise of al qaeda in the region needs to be relooked. i don't think we have an e
kyrgyzstan and only appeared here occasionally while residing in the united states, the russian special services, to my great regret, were not able to provide our american colleagues with information that would have operative significant. what is your take on that? deconstruct and translate that from what you know of putin and the russians. >> my interpretation would be that he's saying that his own special services did not find out about tamerlan or realized that he was in their country doing that, but they would have, if he met with the people that they have been watching. so the particular cell, and his associates who show up on tamerlan's youtube video, that he has on his youtube ktd, that group was under 24/7 coverage, by the russian services. they don't have to contend with first amendment, fourth amendment, these issues don't -- it is not the same there. so they're able to monitor completely the movements of the group, which in december results in them killing abu dujan and his main people in dagestan. >> tom fuentes, thank you so much. >> you're welcome. >>> jeff bauman awoke la
hundreds of terrorists. >> dzhokhar tsarnaev and his brother originally born in kyrgyzstan charged. tamerlan tsarnaev is dead after a shootout with police, dzhokhar has a gunshot wound to his neck after police apprehended him friday night. a source with firsthand knowledge of the investigation tells cnn that dzhokhar tar neve is on a breathing ventilator and heavily sedated. as we talk about the suspects' future, we cannot forget about those who lost their lives. let's take time to recall them, chris tell krystle campbell, 8-year-old martin richard whose mom and sister were greefsly wounded and 23 year ode linzie lu a boston university graduate student from china. and then of course m.i.t. officer gunned down, 26-year-old sean collier. we're told vice president biden will attend a memorial service for him on wednesday. as we mentioned, dzhokhar tsarnaev won't be charged as an enemy combatant. he'll be prosecuted in the criminal justice system. is this the right move? >> absolutely. it's actually a no-brainer on so many levels. for one, this is a strong case so why would you abandon
to the tsarnaev family. and we understand from the aunt that they went back there from kyrgyzstan between the two chechen wars in the late 1990 ds, tried to make a life and then fled just before the second chechen war started. that village being heavily bombed, in fact most of that street having been destroyed. this must have been a pretty formative time for tamerlan much like he was 10 to 12, some time like that. he obviously then came back according to officials twice it seems in later stages of his youth, dagestan, talk to people here. investigators really trying to find out if he met any militants during that period of time, anderson. >> yeah. clearly still trying to figure out a lot of that six-month timeline he was there. nick paton walsh, appreciate it. you're looking at live pictures of a makeshift memorial for the victims of last week's bombings on boylston street here in boston. much more coverage from boston ahead. and also look at other stories making headlines including a vote in congress that could bring an end to plane passengers miseries. stay with us for that. ♪ [ male announce
? >> they came here from kyrgyzstan. >> where were they born? >> in kyrgyzstan. i wouldn't say losers. i say those able to make this are only losers. that's what i say. there's no idea that they may follow. >> what do you do for a living, sir? >> huh? >> i work, i work. thank you very much. >> from now on, i dearly ask you to respect our privacy. >> we've been listening to ruslan tzarni. >> as you just heard, the uncle of the suspects, ruslan tsarni saying this has nothing to do with chechnya. begging his nephews to turn themselves in. asking for forgiveness. saying they put shame on the entire ethnicity and adding to the theory, guys that these were two disgruntled kids who were unable to assimilate to u.s. culture. >> asked what possibly sparked this. he said they were never able to settle. everyone else did, but they were never able to do that. >> which argues the idea of nationalism that so many people had spoken about. that's what you could draw from what is happening. >> this is the same uncle who called them losers. distancing themselves from the individuals themselves. saying he had
never speak to them again. they came from turkistan and from kyrgyzstan and they left chechnya and other members in russian facebook page that s dzhokhar went to first grade in dagestan as well so they had been in several of these republics. to brad garrett, former special agent of the fbi now an abc news consultant so, brad, we're learning more and more about the background of dzhokhar tsarnaev and i have to say at least from what we're hearing so far, it doesn't seem to point in the direction of violence in any way at all and does that surprise you and what is the fbi do with information like that? >> well, first of all, it doesn't surprise me and here is the reason why, is that people who are driven by philosophical extremism not a serial killer, not those type of people, they -- what they do is they can sort of bifurcate their life and lead a normal life and go to school, do the things that everyone else does, wrestling, social events and then they have this other side, this other thing that sort of building in their life and my guess is he's so young, we don't know how ng he's been
countries or kyrgyzstan or turkmenistan but they may have spent some time in central asia. that is something authorities are going to need to look at before they moved ten years ago in 2003 to the united states. a very curious path for them out of chechnya the russian area that they lived, the border area of chechnya where they lived, bill. >> jennifer, in your time at the pentagon, i want to be very specific about this, and you answered part of that in your answer there, how often on issues of terrorism here in the u.s. or perhaps overseas in the wars that were prosecuted in iraq and now afghanistan would the issue of a chechen rebel terrorist come up? >> we heard others joining the fight in afghanistan and iraq and elsewhere a pipeline of chechen fighters join up with al qaeda linked groups? that is not unusual, our military and our special operations forces encountered chechens in many war zones since 9/11. that is not unusual. what is unusual to see two young men who spent most of their lives in the u.s., who were by all accounts, according to their uncle, star students, star athletes, r
as refugees in 2001 from neighboring kyrgyzstan. then they moved to the u.s. the family claimed asylum. his younger brother came first, authorities say, and became a citizen. tamerlan followed, and got a green card. his aunt, who lives in canada, said friday -- >> he had a daughter and he was very happy about his daughter. >> reporter: but police records show he was arrested for assaulting his girlfriend. his father said tamerlan quit school early to get married. according to a u.s. official, travel records show tamerlan flew to russia in january 2012 and returned to the u.s. six months later. his father insisted his sons had nothing to do with the bombing. >> translator: someone framed them. i don't know who exactly did it. but someone did. will being cowards, they shot the boy dead. there are cops like this. >> reporter: but his uncle in maryland says, the brothers were losers, who were radicalized. >> being losers, hatred to those who were able to settle themselves. these are the only reasons i can imagine. anything else to religion with islam, it's a fraud. it's a fake. >> and wolf, in
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